Deep learning pioneer Geoffrey Hinton announced on Monday that he was stepping down from his role as a Google AI researcher after a decade with the corporate. He says he desires to speak freely as he grows increasingly apprehensive concerning the potential harms of artificial intelligence. Prior to the announcement, Will Douglas Heaven, MIT Technology Review’s senior editor for AI, interviewed Hinton about his concerns—read the complete story here.

Soon after, the 2 spoke at EmTech Digital, signature AI event. “I feel it’s quite conceivable that humanity is only a passing phase within the evolution of intelligence,” Hinton said. You’ll be able to watch their full conversation below.